Re: [Hampshire] UEFI booting woes

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Author: Joseph Bennie
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To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk User Group
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] UEFI booting woes

> On 10 Nov 2014, at 22:19, Michael Daffin <james1479@???> wrote:
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> No version of windows will leave dirty footprints in your BIOS, secure boot is already baked into the bios and is a requirement for it to be deemed windows 8 compatible by Microsoft. Which is basically any computer you can buy these days. Older windows OSs will suffer the same problem as most Linux distros in that they will not boot with secure boot enabled. As far as I know only windows 8 and a few select Linux distros will boot on a computer with secure boot enabled. So it will not matter if you can get a computer with or without windows installed on it, if it is windows 8 compatible it will have secure boot on it.
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> Note that it is also a requirement by Microsoft on x86_64 computers that you must be able to turn off secure boot (though it is not always easy and there could be other problems with booting Linux). However on arm chips, the requirement is the opposite and you can not turn it off (so stay far away from any windows 8 compatible arm computers you are thinking about turning into Linux boxes, such as the Microsoft surface tablet).


Just for the record I set up win10 demo on a factory shipped win8 Acer Aspire R7.

I reset the TPM and followed the disable secure boot option, but still had problems installing stock debian….. however I decided to take an RH7 (30day demo subscription) for a spin incase it was just media issue and worked like charm (Top marks to RH for a very slick distro)…. however I just can’t be fussed with the RH way of doing things so got grumpy and re tried to install Debian. … this time Debian just worked … same disk same hard ware .. the only meaningful difference was the RH7 changed something and every time it boots theres a little flash of the uefi boot shell before it loads the OS.

So I think this is repeatable.

a) follow the options to reset tpm (in windows)
b) follow the reboot without secure boot
c) install Redhat 7
d) reinstall with distort of choice.

Can someone give it a go. thanks .J



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> On 10 November 2014 21:29, Ian Park <i.d.c.park@??? <mailto:i.d.c.park@ntlworld.com>> wrote:
> A web search for "Windows signed kernel secure boot" turned up a Microsoft web page which tells me that secure boot applies to Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 & Windows Server 2012 R2. Looks as though XP and Vista (and for that matter Windows 7) shouldn't leave dirty footprints in your BIOS!
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> On 10/11/14 19:40, Martin N wrote:
> OT i know but does this mean when an old windows OS is installed, the same error will occur?
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> ie xp vista
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> What is the earliest version of the windows to support the signed kernel?
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> Martin
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> At 13:44 09/11/2014, you wrote:
> Thanks, Michael; with that hint I tried a google search on "Asus Sabertooth FX" + "secure boot" and found a You-tube video showing me how to do all sorts of tweaking, including disabling secure boot. Tried that, and now I can boot from the rEFInd CD.
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