Author: Tony Wood Date: To: lug, Hampshire LUG Discussion List Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Code base and Emergency Data Laws
On 17/07/14 13:16, Damian L Brasher wrote: > On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 09:07 +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a friend who is in the Police and they explained to me what DRIP/RIPA is.
>> 1) There are no "triggers".
>> 2) Police make a request to the phone company with a search key of say
>> "phone number". They can then get a report of all the calls that user
>> has made within a small time period. They can also obtain details of
>> where the phone was used during that time period. There are various
>> other request types they can make, all listed in the RIPA documents.
>> Also only a select few police people are allowed to make such
>> requests. These are ones with the rank "superintendent". Normally
>> these requests also need to be supported by court authorizations.
>> 3) DRIP is much the same as RIPA, and RIPA has been around since at
>> least the year 2000.
>> 4) The requests are definitely aimed at being of use to police
>> investigating a crime. For example, they can search by a fraudulent
>> bank account number. If that bank account number paid a phone bill,
>> they can then obtain the phone number of that phone, and then request
>> the location of that phone.
>>
>> If you are particularly interested in what they can ask for, google
>> for RDHI (Retained Data Handover Interface) , it is an ETSI standard
>> and lists all the request types used by RIPA.
>>
>> Summary: I don't think anything has changed since the year 2000.
>
> Thank you for sharing James. Without question, the police need some
> data. Clearly, DRIP is not fully understood from multiple perspectives.
> Echoing the House of Lords concerns yesterday, there has not been enough
> time for discussion.
>
> In my opinion, discussion is essential. Critically, international
> communities will take DRIP headlines at face value (or dig deeper) and
> won't feel as confident working with the UK. One of the worst headlines,
> is the speed at which the legislation is being pushed through
> parliament.
>
> Many long-term effects are, or seem to be, left in lap of the gods.
>
> Best regards
> Damian
>
>
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