Re: [Hampshire] Debian 7.1 startup problem

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Author: Peter Alefounder
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To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Debian 7.1 startup problem
James Courtier-Dutton <james.dutton@???> said:
> My first thought due to is apparent random affect, run a memtest86+.
> You should find it on your boot menu.


Not there. I have a choice between Debian (usual) and Debian (recovery mode),
plus some BIOS set-up options that disappear too quickly for me to read. (I am
aware of Del should I need to change any settings).

Alex Dicks <alex@???> said
> Could be a problem with the power supply.  On an old computer, it took a
> while for the power supply to warm up.  The workaround was to pause at
> the bootloader menu, leave the computer for a while, then reset it.  (It
> would usually freeze withing a minute after being turned on, so letting
> it do that at the bootloader rather than while loading the operating
> system saved on having to fsck.)  The solution was to buy a new power
> supply.


This is a new computer - arrived last month. If the PSU is going wrong already,
DNUK will have to fix it. Don't know how to pause the bootloader. So far, there
have been no problems once the log-in screen has appeared.

Ally Biggs <bluechrome@???>said:
> Clean up the fan and heat sink get some Artic silver, Run a benchmark tool I run
> Prime95 and speed fan. Keep a eye on temps this will eliminate any heat related
> issues. Whilst you are cleaning out the heatsink have a look at the board for
> signs of bulging capacitors.


Capacitors are all solid on this machine and it has not had time to accumulate
much dust. I generally looked in my old machine about once a year and there was
never much dust to remove even after that time.

How do I monitor temperatures? There is a widget I can add to the lower panel
(KDE) that is supposed to do that sort of thing but it has no available
temperatures. I presume I need to install some software - is it still lm-sensors
or something like that?

> Is the computer crashing in linux or failing before? During POST you need it.


It is while Debian is loading and before the log-in screen appears. I will see
if I can get a photo of the screen if it happens again, but so far after my
posting on this forum, it has been behaving itself.

Artur ??dka <arturladka@???>said:
> Did you try to wait a bit when boot up process is frozen? About 3 minutes
> from start (120 seconds after freeze) - after that kernel will kill
> blocking task. I recently found this problem on relatively new hardware and
> Debian 7 when IPMI module could not be loaded.


No, I have not given it that long. This is certainly new hardware. I don't know
what IPMI is, but will find out if I need to. I have noticed that it complains
about lacking some codecs, but that lack does not appear to affect normal
operation.

> If it will not be this problem I also think it can be PSU issue. Is your
> PSU branded or is it cheapest no name?


FSP Raider. Something that DNUK trust enough to give a 3 year warranty.

Thanks to all for the comments. I will try to get more details if there are
further problems.

Peter Alefounder.

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