Re: [Hampshire] not getting mail out of a server

On 11 March 2010 16:11, Hugo Mills <hugo@???> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 04:07:02PM +0000, Victor Churchill wrote:
>> On 11 March 2010 16:04, Martin A. Brooks <martin@???> wrote:
>> > On Thu, March 11, 2010 15:44, Victor Churchill wrote:
>> >> 2010-03-11 15:17:55 1Npk95-0004PG-4w <= www-data@???
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is your mail ID
>
>> >> U=www-data P=local S=819 id=0c4d81be0f925085ea365866e2555d25@the-host
>> >> 2010-03-11 15:17:56 1Npk95-0004PG-4w => me@??? R=dnslookup
>> >> T=remote_smtp H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [209.85.211.83]
>> >> 2010-03-11 15:17:56 1Npk95-0004PG-4w Completed
>                                          ^^^^^^^^^ This means it's been accepted by the machine on the other end, job done.
>
>> >>
>> >> So it looks to me as if exim is sending the mail out without getting
>> >> any complaints back.But I am not familiar with exim log files.In a
>> >> sendmail log I would see an ID, like:
>> >>  relay=easymx2.easily.co.uk. [62.128.158.225], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>> >> (OK id=1NpkG6-0003W4-6w)
>> >> so I do not know if the exim one is complete despite what it says.
>> >
>> > It is, the "1Npk95-0004PG-4w" is your ID.
>>
>> Sorry, I did not make myself clear. The second example was from a
>> different server, running sendmail, for comparison. It does give an ID
>> but there is not an ID in the exim log.
>
>   Yes, there is (see above -- a monospaced font is recommended to
> line up the arrows properly :) )
(*1)
You are right, of course. My apologies to Martin. I misread his mail
and confused the exim ID 1Npk95-0004PG-4w and the sendmail ID
1NpkG6-0003W4-6w. I failed to notice the similarity of the values, and
was misdirected by the way sendmail says "id=" where exim just uses
the ID as ... a queue identifier, whereas sendmail uses a different
queue identifier like o2BFP270029299. I do see the exim way as more
transparent now I understand it!
>
>   Could Google be doing greylisting?

Greylisting should let the message through if/when you try sending
another one IIUIC. Also I would expect to see a 'you have been
greylisted' response in the log?

(*1) I'm sure gmail used to have a 'view in monospace font' option.
Seems to have gone now :(