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gpg: Signature made Thu Mar 11 16:49:23 2010 GMT
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 04:41:25PM +0000, Victor Churchill wrote:
> On 11 March 2010 16:11, Hugo Mills <hugo@???> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 04:07:02PM +0000, Victor Churchill wrote:
> >> On 11 March 2010 16:04, Martin A. Brooks <martin@???> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, March 11, 2010 15:44, Victor Churchill wrote:
> >> >> 2010-03-11 15:17:55 1Npk95-0004PG-4w <= www-data@???
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is your mail ID
> >
> >> >> U=www-data P=local S=819 id=0c4d81be0f925085ea365866e2555d25@the-host
> >> >> 2010-03-11 15:17:56 1Npk95-0004PG-4w => me@??? R=dnslookup
> >> >> T=remote_smtp H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [209.85.211.83]
> >> >> 2010-03-11 15:17:56 1Npk95-0004PG-4w Completed
> > ^^^^^^^^^ This means it's been accepted by the machine on the other end, job done.
> >
> >> >>
> >> >> So it looks to me as if exim is sending the mail out without getting
> >> >> any complaints back.But I am not familiar with exim log files.In a
> >> >> sendmail log I would see an ID, like:
> >> >> relay=easymx2.easily.co.uk. [62.128.158.225], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
> >> >> (OK id=1NpkG6-0003W4-6w)
> >> >> so I do not know if the exim one is complete despite what it says.
> >> >
> >> > It is, the "1Npk95-0004PG-4w" is your ID.
> >>
> >> Sorry, I did not make myself clear. The second example was from a
> >> different server, running sendmail, for comparison. It does give an ID
> >> but there is not an ID in the exim log.
> >
> > Yes, there is (see above -- a monospaced font is recommended to
> > line up the arrows properly :) )
> (*1)
> You are right, of course. My apologies to Martin. I misread his mail
> and confused the exim ID 1Npk95-0004PG-4w and the sendmail ID
> 1NpkG6-0003W4-6w. I failed to notice the similarity of the values, and
> was misdirected by the way sendmail says "id=" where exim just uses
> the ID as ... a queue identifier, whereas sendmail uses a different
> queue identifier like o2BFP270029299. I do see the exim way as more
> transparent now I understand it!
The mail ID is also the base name for the two files (headers and
content) that exim writes to the disk for its queue. Means that if
necessary, you can just go and rm stuff from the mail queue (although
I wouldn't recommend it except as a last resort). :)
> > Could Google be doing greylisting?
>
> Greylisting should let the message through if/when you try sending
> another one IIUIC.
Another copy of the same mail, as in a standard retry cycle.
> Also I would expect to see a 'you have been greylisted' response in
> the log?
You could be right, there. It's been a while since I looked at a
mail log.
Hugo.
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