On Friday 08 Dec 2006 16:31, David Anderson wrote:
> Simon,
>
> Friday, December 8, 2006, 4:01:57 PM, you wrote:
>
> SH> On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 09:39:52PM +0000, Jamie Webb wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 01:30:43PM +0000, Tom Dawes-Gamble wrote:
> >> > Let's assume that you have just started of with a shiny new ADSL Max
> >> > line.  And your using a router that has a fault that means it can't
> >> > sync correctly so you get a less than ideal rate.  The ten days go
> >> > by and your really not happy.  You do some checking and find that
> >> > your router is at fault.  So you go out and buy shiny a new router.
> >> > The line should now sync at the best rate possible.  It would be
> >> > wrong to remain at the degraded rate forever.
> >>
> >> In these circumstances, I think it's necessary to ask BT to repeat the
> >> training.
>
> SH> In theory, after the 10 day training period, given three good syncs
> over SH> three days (i.e. you have to reboot the router each day so it
> resyncs) SH> the rate should be happier.  Certainly that's what the
> information I've SH> seen plus support agents from our supplier say.
>
> SH> The best page to read about MAX ADSL is
> SH> http://www.aaisp.net.uk/maxmagic.html
>
> SH> On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 09:35:39AM +0000, David Anderson wrote:
> >> Thursday, December 7, 2006, 10:37:14 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> JW> On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 09:19:29AM +0000, David Anderson wrote:
> >> >> Bear in mind that a modem will switch off the connection whenever
> >> >> the PC is rebooted or turned off, and the way that Max works can
> >> >> cause a lessening of the sync rate for a few days. With a router
> >> >> left on continuously the rate will settle down after 10 days.
> >>
> >> JW> Do you have a source for this? It sounds like FUD.
> >> I have switched my router off twice whilst on holidays - 5 days each
> >> time. Looking at my BT line stats before and after shows a retrain at
> >> a lower rate on return, slowly building up over the course of a few
> >> days.
> >>
> >> Good enough source for you?
>
> SH> Strange but I suppose plausible; I was as doubtful as Jamie when you
> SH> first wrote this.  Did it start off at about 2meg?
>
> This was on a fully up to speed line.
>
> The following are BT line stats:
>
> Upstream        Downstream      Interleave      Date
> 448     7392    Auto    03-Oct-2006 11:20:12
> 448     6240    Auto    30-Sep-2006 11:18:38
> 448     6816    Auto    27-Sep-2006 12:39:13
> 448     7392    Auto    22-Sep-2006 06:19:00
> 448     5696    Auto    08-Sep-2006 09:52:39
> 448     5696    Auto    06-Sep-2006 12:13:43
> 448     6816    Auto    05-Sep-2006 08:14:18
> 448     7392    Auto    08-Aug-2006 07:22:39
> 448     7392    Auto    30-Jul-2006 12:17:50
>
> I went on holiday at the beginning of September and the end of
> September.
>
> QED
Erm...
I turn all my equipment off at the wall every night, including my router, and 
have not been away.  My stats are as below.  I feel that David has indeed 
produced one example, but one swallow does not a summer make. ;-)  (The 
recorded dates are those recorded by Zen and are not of my choosing.)
Lisi
448  6816  Auto  08-Dec-2006 07:54:57
448  6240  Auto  07-Dec-2006 07:51:31
448  6816  Auto  05-Dec-2006 09:14:48
448  6240  Auto  04-Dec-2006 08:13:49
448  5696  Auto  30-Nov-2006 10:45:18
448  5696  Auto  28-Nov-2006 08:35:56
448  5120  Auto  26-Nov-2006 05:59:03
448  5696  Auto  26-Nov-2006 05:47:36
448  5696  Auto  26-Nov-2006 05:41:49
448  6240  Auto  26-Nov-2006 07:55:04
448  4544  Auto  24-Nov-2006 08:50:21
448  4000  Auto  22-Nov-2006 06:12:39
448  4000  Auto  20-Nov-2006 01:30:56
448  4000  Auto  18-Nov-2006 05:37:41
448  5120  Auto  17-Nov-2006 07:08:06
448  6816  Auto  16-Nov-2006 06:47:25
448  6816  Auto  15-Nov-2006 10:25:21
448  7392  Auto  14-Nov-2006 05:40:09
448  8128  Auto  14-Nov-2006 11:37:40
448  8128  Auto  13-Nov-2006 09:50:32
448  6816  Auto  10-Nov-2006 01:45:06
448  7968  Auto  10-Nov-2006 12:07:32
448  7968  Auto  10-Nov-2006 11:26:42
448  8128  Auto  10-Nov-2006 11:09:30
448  8128  Auto  10-Nov-2006 11:04:18