On 18/02/15 16:37, Jay Bennie wrote:
> On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:19, Lisi <hantslug@???> wrote:
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>> On Wednesday 18 February 2015 16:07:17 Jay Bennie wrote:
>>> interesting reading, i wonder when people at the top will realise just
>>> because you have a qualification, wont mean your any good at it. Software
>>> development is as much an art form as it is a trained skill. All this will
>>> do is flood the market with crap programmers.
>> That applies to anything. But to select your good tennis players, you have to
>> have a decent sized pool of tennis players in the first place.
>>
> Naturally good people always rise to the top, all this will do is lower the salaries they will receive.
>
> it really narks the establishment and companies that software peeps get paid more than senior managers and there is an ongoing effort by companies to lower salaries by making it a commodity job.
>
> and don't be so naive to suggest that people of the future will need more computing skills, if anything computing skills will be required less as tooling and AI becomes more sophisticated and automated. 10 years from now we will simply ask a machine to write software for us and only a very small number of people will be in a position to modify that base code.
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>> Software development is an art form. But it requires skills.
> painters of the fine arts know all to well that to be master of art you must posses exacting skill.
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>> As does software maintenance. And those skills must be learnt, they are not innate,
>> and can be taught.
>>
> This may be true. There may be more systems, but the natural evolution will concentrate knowledge into fewer and fewer parts. Thus fewer and fewer teams. the few commodity roles will be passed to the lowest bidder and this will mostly be offshore. So we are training people to have skills they will never practice. It would be far better for the government to concentrate resources on producing more Nurses and Farmers.
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>> Are you going to not teach Maths, because not every child can become an Alan
>> Turing?
> Math has a natural use in all subjects and life skills, computing and software don't, and the idea that kids need to be taught to type or surf the web is laughable.
>
>> Lisi
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and many of those that we regards as masters of art today, died
penniless and unknown.
Will we look back in the future at those in the software industry and
hold some of them them in high esteem as we do old artists?? If you say
yes then consider the case of Alan Truing.........
Tim
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