On 7 Dec 2014 at 20:41, jay bennie wrote:
 
> ... gchq etc ... omg  tin hat alert! 
The Bradley/Chelsea Manning leaks demonstrate that too many 
people have access to secret information. 
For the US, the number of people with access to information at 
the Manning level is estimated to be 500,000 to 2,000,000 
depending on who you talk to.
If you assume that the level of criminality amongst those with 
clearance is about the same as that in the population at large, 
then you take note that the US keeps about 1% of its population 
if prison. Such numbers suggest that several thousand people 
with criminal intent exist with access to the data. It would be 
foolish to assume that cases of private blackmail or industrial 
espionage have not already happened.
The Snowden leaks demonstrate that government agencies will 
install and use "stuff" if they possibly can.
> encryption works! use it...and your tin at hosting is
> just if not more vulnerable than the top clouds. 
How long did the SSL problem last? So much for the "many eyes" 
philosophy. I agree that end-to-end encryption may be required.
An absolute belief in the safety of encryption is a tin hat 
belief at the moment.
  
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Stephen
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