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Author: Benjie Gillam
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To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Correction - was:Re: [OT] Southampton Hackerspace Survey
The point of the survey is not to attract new members but instead to gauge
the level of interest for a Southampton-based hackerspace. The survey would
still be perfectly valid even if Southackton had not had any meetings or
interest before this point.

That being said, question 1 asks how many Southackton meetups you've
attended (implying, I think, that Southackton have had meetups). The survey
links to the blog[1], which has many links to further information about
Southackton as a group if you're inclined to read more. We're not a recent
group looking to "poach" members from SHH - a click on our archives page
will reveal that we've been around and having meetups since 2009, and if it
so pleased you, you would be able to read about these meetings (though not
all our documented). Our mailing list, over on Google Groups[2], has over
150 members.

I wish SHH much luck in setting up a hackerspace, the more the merrier! I
think most people involved in the setting up and running of hackerspaces
get excited when they see new hackerspaces setting up in nearby cities, as
it allows their member bases to get together for big events, they can share
technology and resources and generally do things within the hackerspace
spirit; like, for example, the Brighton Mini Maker Faire yesterday. It
concerns me that you feel there is competition between them - these are not
commercial ventures - they are not-for-profit groups ran for the betterment
of all. I think every city in the world should have a hackerspace, and I'm
concentrating on trying to set one up in Southampton, where I live.

If you feel I could have worded things better, are interested in a
Southampton hackerspace, and wish to take part in future then I encourage
you to get involved! Like most Linux developers, we don't get paid for
this, we're doing it off our own backs, and this kind of negativity can be
extremely discouraging. Interest, kind words, and constructive criticism
can however be very motivating.

Regards,

Benjie.

[1]: http://southackton.org.uk/
[2]: https://groups.google.com/group/southackton


On 9 September 2012 16:03, <hantslug@???> wrote:

> On Sunday 09 September 2012 15:51:22 Dave Walker wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 2:18 PM, <hantslug@???> wrote:
> > > Thanks, Benjie for your reply.
> > >
> > > On Sunday 09 September 2012 12:50:35 Benjie Gillam wrote:
> > > > As regards Surrey and Hampshire Hackspace - like Southackton they
> don't
> > >
> > > yet
> > >
> > > > have an actual hackspace, they're a group of hackers/makers who meet
> > > > frequently
> > >
> > > There has been no mention of anything to suggest that you are already
> > > meeting,
> > > let alone when and where, which are surely necessary if you are to
> > > attract new members. SHH is already doing a small amount of hacking,
> > > although that is necessarily limited by the lack of a permanent home.
> > >
> > > It also is trying to build up its membership, which you clearly are not
> > > yet doing. So it is more advanced than you are in the process of
> setting
> > > up.
> > >
> > > Lisi
>
> > Having not looked at hantslug list for some time, and returning to see
> the
> > traditional negativity this list provides; I remember exactly why I
> stopped
> > following it.
>
> It seems more than somewhat unfair to blame HantsLUG for what you perceive
> as
> my negativity.
>
> > Why can't there be a little more constructive help?
>
> Erm... I filled in his survey and answered the questions as accurately
> and as
> helpfully as I could. I protested because Benjie seemed to me to be aiming
> at poaching members from another fledgeling group. It has regular meetings
> in a private room and is actively seeking permanent premises. The
> omission
> of Reading seems to have been a genuine error, but he still omitted it - to
> his advantage.
>
> Any errors I made are mine alone and in no way the fault of HantsLUG.
>
> Lisi
>
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