On Tuesday 06 October 2009 23:18:27 john lewis wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:47:27 +0100
>
> Samuel Penn <sam@???> wrote:
> > On Monday 05 October 2009 22:57:55 john lewis wrote:
> > > On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:56:15 +0100
> > >
> > > Samuel Penn <sam@???> wrote:
> > > > On Monday 05 October 2009 18:21:56 john lewis wrote:
> > > > > However I would like to say that one of the reasons I use
> > > > > Debian is that I haven't needed to reinstall* it since I put
> > > > > that first system on a PC ten years or so ago. I have just
> > > > > moved seamlessly from one year to the next with daily apt-get
> > > > > update (nowadays the update bit is taken care by cron-apt) and
> > > > > apt-get upgrade (nowadays aptitude safe-upgrade)
> > > >
> > > > Gentoo is similar, except that the 'apt-get upgrade' bit is seen
> > > > as an unnecessary step, and they've managed to pretty much remove
> > > > the concept of versioning above the level of individual packages.
> > >
> > > I didn't really make it clear that "aptitude update" only updates
> > > the available package listing held on the local computer.
> >
> > Ah, I assumed 'update' updated packages, and 'upgrade' upgraded from
> > one version of Debian to another. It's that latter (wrong!)
> > interpretation of upgrade that Gentoo skips.
>
> There is quite a good explanation of what these commands do in the wiki
>
> http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ManagingPackages/Apt
"aptitude update" is the equivalent of "emerge --sync" then.
"aptitude upgrade" is "emerge world"
Though personally, I almost never use "emerge world" and just update
those packages I want to update individually.
"aptitude dist-upgrade" is not needed in Gentoo.
Overall, I think that's far more information than I needed to know
about Debian, but it wasn't boring.
> I don't think the name for the next testing version has been chosen
> yet, names are taken from Toy Story characters. see this link
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives
That's even worse than Sun's versioning schemes. I like numbers since
they're easy to compare.
> sid aka unstable
> squeeze aka testing
> lenny aka stable
Each version of a package is marked as masked, ~arch (unstable) or arch
(stable) for each architecture. For example:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/kde-base/kdm
At the time of this email, 3.5.10 is the latest stable release on
all architectures. 4.2.4 through 4.3.1-r2 are all available as
unstable (hasn't been signed off) on all architectures save for
sparc, and 4.3.2 is available but not suggested for use.
I use stable packages by default, and allow an unstable package to
be installed if I need a particular feature in that version.
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