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On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 02:53:12PM +0100, Daniel Pope wrote:
> Hugo Mills wrote:
> >     I happily thought that the ternary operator had been put to death
> > in Python, until I saw this little gem in some code yesterday:
> >
> >     (is_forward and "F" or "B")
> >
> > The perpetrator has been given a good talking-to. :)
> 
> That's become a common idiom in Python, and most Pythonistas will have 
> seen it. It falls over if where you've written "F" there's an expression 
> that will evaluate to false.
   Ugly *and* fragile. <sarcasm>Spiffing.</sarcasm>
> It was replaced by a proper ternary operator in Python 2.5. But it's not 
> a C-style ternary operator, it's
> 
> result = 1 if test() else -1
> 
> the idea being that the difference in syntax stresses the success path 
> as the default with the failure path as a fallback.
   Eww. That's *intensely* ugly.
   Yet one more reason to avoid ternary operators... (If you haven't
guessed yet, I'm not a fan of the whole concept. I've rarely met a use
of the ternary operator, in any language, that made code easier to
read.)
   Hugo.
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