On Wednesday 09 July 2008 20:46:03 Jim Nicholson wrote:
> 2008/7/9 Lisi <hantslug@???>:
> [snip]
>
> Thanks, Hugo.  But that just leaves me baffled.  That was exactly what I
>
> > originally thought - but when I tried to use the PID and PPID with kill
> > to shut the wretched thing down it said that the PID did not exist. :-(
> >
> > I have just tried again, and again it said that there is no such process
> > as the PID.  If I kill just the PPID, it accepts the command, but nothing
> > goes away.
>
> Lisi,
>
> The PID you are seeing is for the grep process that was processing the
> output of ps.  When ps exited it closed its output that was being piped to
> ps.  When ps got to the end of its input stream, it exited and you returned
> to the shell prompt.  Hence that grep process did not exist when you tried
> to kill it.
>
> HTH
>
> Jim
So please, Jim and Hugo -
_How_ do I get rid of this wretchedly persistent thunderbird?  I am still 
getting the same error message when I try to run Thunderbird as I was getting 
way back in the thread:
<quote>
<quote> Thunderbird is already running but is not responding.  To open a new 
window you must first close the existing Thunderbird process, or restart your 
system. </quote>
I have tried:
#ps -Al    
No sign of Thunderbird.
So I ended the session and started another.  Still not sorted.
Restart system.  Still not sorted.
Shut down.  Wait.  Start system.  _Still_ not sorted.
</quote>
I tried putting in the grep because someone - Simon? - said to do so.  Have we 
come to the point where I uninstall, reinstall and tell Peter that he can't 
have his old files?
Lisi