** Andy Smith <andy@???> [2008-05-01 14:14]:
> On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 01:54:54PM +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> > Um??? So where is the question? I don't see any question marks at all
> > in that entire email!!!
>
> I think it was just a chance to say "I don't like ubntbuntntutntu"
> :-)
** end quote [Andy Smith]
The question was in the first 3 lines, although I have to admit that for
some reason it didn't end up in a specific question format with a ? at
the end:
"I'm having trouble finding any reference to any directory/file
permissions changes that Ubuntu have made to Debian."
Which sort of implies the question "Does anyone have any
references/links to what Ubuntu may have changed in terms of
directory/file permissions?"
I'm beginning to think that it has been largely done via group
memmbership rather than permissions, which would make sense for maximum
package compatibility and minimum rework when transferring changes back
and forth (I think I'm correct in believing that Ubuntu isn't forking
off, but is staying true to its roots and therefore merges changes back
in and refreshes from Debian).
No, it wasn't a dig at Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu on my desktop machines [1]
and I do like it - although I can't quite balance the pros and cons of
Ubuntu and Debian to actually favour one properly. I think it is
probably a case of wanting to like it, but the only practical advantage
of it over Debian for my personal use so far has been hardware support
on the install media [2].
I have to say that I keep questioning why I like Ubuntu, or whether I
simply want to like it, and whether the only reasons to stick with it
are better/more pragmatic approach to (proprietary) drivers, hence
better hardware support (than Debian) and better brand recognition. By
that last one I mean that many, if not most of the people I deal with
have never heard of Red Hat, and may have heard of Novell, and so it is
an extremely useful lead in to Linux to say that Dell use it and leave
further explanation of open source, freedom, etc. until you're on the
firmer ground provided by the familiarity of the Dell brand (all be it I
don't use Dell kit!).
[1] Actually I have Ubuntu on 4 non-servers, each of which is currently
either not in use or not using Linux :( My Dell laptop is old, damaged
and having poor batteries is currently on a shelf. My replacement Compaq
N160 was doing fine and I've just bought a nice memory upgrade and
mini-pci wifi card. There are two problems though 1) the memory is
compatible on paper, but not in situe, and 2) the damn hinge has just
siezed up and broken. The 'family' PC has an odd issue on the machine
where the irq for the usb keyboard and mouse gets disabled if you leave
the machine unused for a while, Windows recovers from this mostly where
Linux just fails to respond (I need to look into this or rebuild the
machine!). My desktop had Ubuntu installed but on rebooting only ever
boots to a Busybox shell (an issue with my ITE8212 IDE controller card)
and I've had the time to sort it out yet!
[2] Actually I've only ever managed to get the alternate or server CDs
to install, the live CD has failed on each of the 5 machines I've tried
it on, each differently - the issues that come to mind are taking 30
minutes to boot on an Athlon 1.2GHz to failing to partition the HD on
both my laptops.
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